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		<title>Trapped in D.C. &#8211; Social Security and Self-Employment</title>
		<link>http://eri-wi.org/askbenspec/2010/02/17/trapped-in-d-c-social-security-and-self-employment/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Countable Earnings]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Everyone: Hope 2010 has been treating you well so far. I have been taking some down time from the traveling so far this year, except I recently drove to D.C. to spend some time with my sister Quimby and ended up being stranded for a while so I thought I would share a photo [...]]]></description>
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<p>Hi Everyone:  Hope 2010 has been treating you well so far.  I have been taking some down time from the traveling so far this year, except I recently drove to D.C. to spend some time with my sister Quimby and ended up being stranded for a while so I thought I would share a photo memory from that experience.  Hope the weather is better where you are!  Here’s a question I received recently…</p>
<p>Dear Ben, </p>
<p>I receive SSDI based on my own work history (no SSI.) I’ve started a business making and selling jewelry. This is not a hobby, I plan on selling my jewelry at consignment shops and on my own at craft fairs around the state to make a profit. My question is, how does social security treat my self-employment income in deciding if I’m working substantially each month (above SGA)? Someone told me they just take my entire yearly income and divide by 12; is that right? </p>
<p>Jerry<br />
Goodman, WI</p>
<p>Dear Jerry, </p>
<p>Good question, and one that requires more than a brief and simple answer. Due to the nature of self employment, identifying a self-employed person’s monthly countable income for Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA) purposes can be more complicated than it is for a person who works for wages. For a beneficiary with wages, the Social Security Administration (SSA) contacts the employer who can provide a definite amount an employee earned in any month, but with self-employment SSA depends on the beneficiary’s records of time spent working and earnings which can be irregular and difficult to evaluate exactly.   </p>
<p>The basic principal to remember is that in determining countable income for SGA purposes, what matters is when income was earned and not paid: SSA needs to know the value of a beneficiary’s work when it was performed. So the critical factor is not when someone actually receives payment for work but rather when the income was earned. </p>
<p>The method you mentioned is how self employment income is counted for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) purposes: SSA takes the total of the net earnings that an SSI recipient received in a calendar year, divides that by 12, and assigns that same amount of earned income to each month of the year. Even if an SSI recipient has months without self-employment activity or income, all 12 months are used in averaging. However, for SGA, which is the issue you as a Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) beneficiary are concerned with, SSA tries to identify when you earned the income. </p>
<p>In comparing the income of a self-employed individual to the SGA monthly earnings guidelines ($1000 in 2010), SSA uses the portion of a self-employed person’s income after the deduction of allowable expenses (which yields Net Earnings from Self Employment or NESE) and the value of certain types of assistance (unpaid help, un-incurred business expenses, IRWE). The final amount then is the countable income which SSA considers the actual value of work performed for SGA purposes. </p>
<p>SSA uses a beneficiary’s own business records and income tax returns to determine the countable income for any particular month of self employment activity. SSA considers each month of self employment activity separately in trying to figure the value of the work performed regardless of the actual income received in the month.  </p>
<p>However, if establishing monthly countable earnings is not possible due to the kind of variables that often part of self employment, SSA may have to average the earnings over a period of work. This is similar to the averaging process SSA uses with wages but with an important difference. In averaging wages SSA already knows what the countable income is for each month (from the employer) and from that recognizes that the beneficiary is somewhat over SGA some months and under others; so to support the beneficiary’s work effort, SSA averages those amounts over a representative period to see if the resulting figure is below SGA. On the other hand, with self-employment SSA averages the accumulative income from a representative period in order to arrive at the countable income assigned to each month in the period.  </p>
<p>For self employment income averaging, SSA takes a beneficiary’s total countable self employment income from a representative period and divides it by the number of months in that period. A representative period is a period of months in which the person actively engaged in work activity with no significant changes in the work pattern or when there is a no regulatory change in the SGA earnings level, which normally occurs every calendar year (for example, from $980 in 2009 to $1000 in 2010.) SSA averages separately each representative or distinct period of work activity. (POMS DI 10510.012B5) </p>
<p>So if a self-employed beneficiary does not engage in work activity for a month or more, the month(s) could not be included in a representative period for averaging and would end any representative period just before. </p>
<p>In the case of a beneficiary who is self-employed as a sole contractor working on a regular basis and receiving about the same income consistently, averaging to arrive at the monthly countable income probably would not be appropriate. In your case, SSA will analyze the period you were engaged in your jewelry business and see if it is possible to determine from your records when you earned your income. It may be necessary to average your income depending on all the factors involved. </p>
<p>As you can see, it is important for self-employed beneficiaries to maintain accurate, complete, and timely records and to work with SSA to keep them informed of your work status. </p>
<p>Good luck with your business. </p>
<p>Ben</p>
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		<title>In Beijing &#8211; Student Earned Income Exclusion</title>
		<link>http://eri-wi.org/askbenspec/2009/07/15/in-beijing-student-earned-income-exclusion/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Student Earned Income Exclusion]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Exclusion]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Income]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Visiting Tiananmen Square in Beijing, China where they recently marked the 20th anniversary of the military crackdown on student protesters who gathered demanding democracy. Tiananmen Square is the world&#8217;s largest public square, and the very heart of modern China. Oddly, we lunched at a McDonald’s nearby which sported a &#8220;famous western people&#8221; theme – including [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_71" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 210px"><img src="http://eri-wi.org/askbenspec/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/polaroid_tiananmensquare.jpg" alt="Beijing, China at Tiananmen Square " title="polaroid_tiananmensquare" width="200" height="279" class="size-full wp-image-71" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Beijing, China at Tiananmen Square </p></div>
<p>Visiting Tiananmen Square in Beijing, China where they recently marked the 20th anniversary of the military crackdown on student protesters who gathered demanding democracy.  Tiananmen Square is the world&#8217;s largest public square, and the very heart of modern China.  Oddly, we lunched at a McDonald’s nearby which sported a &#8220;famous western people&#8221; theme – including images of Jim Morrison and Sean Connery.  Not exactly what I expected.  Speaking of students&#8230;here&#8217;s a question I recently received:</p>
<p>Hi Ben:</p>
<p>I have a follow-up question to the presentation John Benbow did at the last WDBN meeting. If a person is using a Student Earned Income Exclusion, should they avoid using the telephone reporting system? </p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
Stephanie</p>
<h2>Here’s my response</h2>
<p>Stephanie, </p>
<p>Social Security&#8217;s SSI Automated Telephone Wage Reporting system (SSITWR) does have certain technical limitations, but a recipient having the Student Earned Income Exclusion (SEIE) work incentive can still use the new telephone system. </p>
<p>On the other hand, if a recipient has Impairment Related Work Expenses (IRWE) or a Plan to Achieve Self Support (PASS) work incentives reporting via phone is an exclusion. Someone with multiple employers in a month is also an exclusion. </p>
<p>For clarification or more details, contact your local Social Security office. </p>
<p>Ben</p>
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